Is there any use for that stuff? 2 Is CBD extraction optimised on one temperature over another: 1 or 2 instead of 3 or 4? How can you tell when you are done? I’m on my 3rd or 4th time, and I’m still not getting much at all. However, it’s not ideal and I think I could do better. Btw the first week or so i had it i was using a more dry type of dense herb and now i have some more fluffy type herb and grinding both in my Sharpstone grinder. Hi, I just got my pax, I’m wondering, what is the best way to inhale from my pax? I was an active [J enthusiast] (around 8 a day, for a cost of about 75 bucks a week) and at first, I was kinda disappointed with the Pax. For best results it’s recommended to vape the entire chamber in one session, but you can still get good results shutting it off in the middle of a sesh and saving the rest for later. (confused!) For really thick deep draws you should ream out the plastic mouthpiece hole to the size of the metal tube inside it. I made a decision to [try vaping]. – I am packing, but not packing TIGHT. Hey sorry for the delay Mike! Some times i change back to the low temp and run through it again, sometimes i add a pinch in between temp changes. First thing to keep in mind is that you’ll get a finer grind and more vapor if your herb is fully dried out with very little moisture left in it. Your input would be greatly appreciated! I thought I have seen in your website a couple of photos you posted of how the herbs look when finish vaping, but I am having an issue finding them. PLEASE great video great instructions. Even been on the phone with Pax for HOURS trying to get their advice. Can I use anything else besides a screen? I would love to know how long your packed pax session lasted around how many hits were you getting and what settings were you using? With a pusher, you can compact the herbs and keep them at the bottom of the chamber. Thank you so much for the screen trick I’ve been watching the vids loyaly and thanks to you I have ended up with the one and only “PAX” best portable vape ever (Since about Jan). You are good as long as screen doesn’t fall out. My stuff is super sticky. In the manual, nothing is said about it. after watching almost all of your videos, including cleaning tutorials and other things, i decided to buy a pax. You can def use a coffee grinder in a pinch just use it in short bursts and don’t go too crazy on it. The Pusher allows the oven to heat the material more evenly during vaporization and greatly improves the vapour quality when the chamber isn't completely filled. Place one corner of the screen in the end of the oven furthest away from the vapor path's opening. I would love to know how to be more efficient with it. Or short and quick? When facedown, an orangish-yellow. It’s the best thing to run around with as well as on the balcony. The fact you attach videos and describe in detail what goes on is great. Followed a very helpful link on YouTube, gave her all I had…and WaLa…my girl was back in business. I like to pack my pax halfway full with the good herb, then fill the second half of the bowl with other various herbs like peppermint, damiana or pretty much whatever you want. Yes they recommend putting it on the charger whenever you’re not using it, keeping the charge “topped off”. Ok…so I did this a** backwards, but I swear I thought my Pax was on the fritz, which I have had a couple of years. Doing a lot of camping with no AC plugs available. This should have been called "get a pusher & 3D screen to improve your pax2 " I did (at a reputable shop, although a non-authorized dealer) and now i know. The thing I didn’t get to read on forums so far, is that you need to TRAIN yourself to CHANGE the way you [indulge] when you get a vaporizer, imho. Hey you will get visible vapor from this unit, that shouldn’t be smoke. A couple of things that work for me: -The metal screen that comes with the pax should have a slight bend to it. Now and then when I take a pull I see some vapor at the end of the pax (strange?) Low battery will not reduce performance and I would say basically the drier your material the better. It could possibly discolor the mouthpiece itself yes. Is it bad to leave the herb in the oven overnight? Any recommendations? Brand new Pax2 and I cannot get vapor/ smoke. When you fully pack it you can expect roughly 20 full draws before your herb is spent. I plan on buying a Pax, and wanted to get your best recommendations for cleaning? Thank you so much for any help/advice you can offer! Put my chips down. I really like your reviews BTW, really critical. Not getting any vape. With so much disinformation out there, it is refreshing to find your candid reviews. Sometimes after the first. You can pack about 0.1g to 0.2g in there and get two good bags of vapor or a handful of good draws from the whip. I was told with the new finish on it it’s not something I have to worry about. What am I still doing wrong? If batt is low will it effect ? Fortunately, I DID take your advice & buy from an authorized dealer, so if i have to go to PAX for help, i should be covered. I’ve found that packing in the elbow screen of the EQ is more efficient than packing in the main cyclone bowl piece. same thing happened to me; if you haven’t sent back yet, oil & push in mouth piece few times lightly & set on charger. A few weeks back i spent $250 on the Pax 2. Awesome review, you basically sold it to me! My question is about the Pax lube. Hey please watch my new PAX 2 vs. I only get 4 or 5 draws before I don’t see any vaper. So hold it in for awhile and enjoy. So my general advice would be this : if you think about getting an “electronic” J when you purchase a vaporizer, think again (except maybe for the Magic flight launchbox?). Not excited :/ LoL @ 300$ for a hot dildo. The PAX vape is a conduction vaporizer so it works by dispersing and distributing heat as the dry material comes into contact with the heating surface. Vape it up! Also are you grinding your material up extra fine? ok thanks bro, but i kNow this might be dumb but How do i know when the bud is done? Thanks for the solidly reassuring my purchase. It’s ground and packed good but still no smoke or vapor on exhale…but it works! or should run it down? It really looks like some elegant high-tech device from the future. When it comes to packing I see in the pix you have it just covering the base. I had already bought a leather case to protect it and to carry it with its accessories. Hey Man, Love your posts, it helped me to my decision to buy the Pax. Love your blog and you videos! Grinding for number two now. It started to taste very nasty like an off burnt plasitic. I still use the 3-step heating profile (i would like to the assent with its programmable temp profile someday). Ok so hello, I just recently purchased a gold pax 2 a couple days ago, I’ve watched SEVERAL different videos on how to use it and the people at the vape shop I got to are pretty knowledgable yet and still, I am NOT getting a hit off this thing…I’ve tried a FEW times with very little success, HELP! Thanks in advance. I get 4 to 7 diminishing draws with only one full draw out of .4 gram! the PAX 2 Vented Oven Lid 2.0 is definitely worth it. keep the battery top of the charge. Thank you. It’s clear that the PAX 2 was designed with the user experience front and center. My husband surprised me and bought me one a few days ago, and I couldn’t be happier! Yes you can mix it. Is dark brown too spent to be consumed as abv? Repeat again and again saving spent for rainy day. I’ve been following your reviews for a while. I also hope to save $ by doing all of my initial testing using OTC herbs…just in case of a failed attempt or 2 ;) Really appreciate everyone’s comments and ideas, btw. I was gifted a PAX at Christmas and it wasn’t until today, after this post and your feedback to comments that I got it to work. I dry it out by leaving the lid open on my supply. My Pax doesn’t produce much vapor; I am working with the Ploom support staff, they said the material was too dry…the opposite of what you recommend. This machine is like driving a manual transmission, use it with care and patience, it’ll never fail you. Is that normal? Next you take the screen and with the bottom of the U facing down place it on top of your material in the oven. Smell proof, water proof, and foam inserts that you cut out to hold your “kit”. -pack the oven tight as you can (I use a USB cap) so that it fills 1/2 to 2/3 the oven (I live 1/2 myself). I’ve heard n more than 6 seconds but i’ve also heard pull for as long as possible. Also make sure you’re either fully packing the oven or using the half-pack method I describe in this post. I only have the heat set on 2 and use the flat mouthpiece. Pax Pusher 2.0 with Vented Oven Lid. Look for the hexagon bolt in the back, if fake. I packed the oven fully, and took 4 draws and then realised that , that was all i needed. And yes you’re exactly right, grinding super fine will definitely give you better results with this one, as well as most other vapes. I lost my oven screen is it still okay to use my pax without it? I can adjust the ratio of fresh to spent to accommodate my needs of the moment (solo, sharing, etc.). I emailed ploom and still no response. but bummer about the temp button :\. Lay the other end in loosely so it sits high above the opening to the vapor path. Cook on 2 to start then 3 for the second half. I’m having problems getting the screen back in the unit. It is not clear in your videos if you always have the pax screen in the bottom against the oven. Even tried moving it up and down with tweezers. A lot of Pax 2 Dry Herb Vaporizers users are unhappy with the screen system in the chamber so Pax Labs offers the sandwich and pusher … Frustrated, decided to drop another $250 on a new one today at local smoke shop. For one or two hits, it is very good. Great job! Came to your site because I was so disappointed with other sites that had obvious paid reviews. It’s elegant; 2. When you pull from it you need to take long, slow draws and I recommend the medium heat setting for best results. When you pack the optimal way the vapor will be denser and stronger, you should be able to get pretty close to the end results from other methods. Or is it perfectly fine to leave it as is after it is fully packed, and the vape session started. Sorry so long winded and thank you! Do I need to buy another mouthpiece? Thanks in advance, you info is very helpful. Some popular cases are “pelican cases” which you can find on Amazon in tons of sizes (originally for photography / scuba cases I think). Not getting any vape. I suppose if your careful and make no scratches, who’s gunna know right? Yo man, just got the pax, its amazing. Start with the 1st temp. I’ve been a pax user for about a year now and love it. I didnt remove the herb from the oven because I plan to vape the remaining today/. The Pax 2's sleek and subtle design combined with 2-hour battery life and it's deeper stainless steel chamber ensure that the Pax 2 is a worthy successor to the original. The PAX 2 vaporizer is the second generation of one of the best-selling portable vapes of all time, the original PAX (the black one in my pics). I didn’t know I just need to click the mouth peice down for it to start cooking. Thank you so much for sharing this! it keeps on popping out. thanks alot man , i only watch your videos, they always answer my questions, like your very helpful man dave. I really can’t stress this point enough – I can almost guarantee that grinding finer will get you better results if you’re not doing it already, especially with a vape like the PAX. It’s most likely behaving like that because there’s a tiny bit of hidden residue on the mouthpiece connector or on the outside of vapor path tube. I don’t have the money to get a nice grinder ($100 or even 50) Would a coffee grinder mutilate the herb? Probably a dumb question, but should I always use the hottest (Red) setting when pulling the mouth piece out to get the best draws? Any tips to get it nice and snug like from factory? Hi… :) grind it very finely … :) coffee grinder helps… But short intervals so it won’t heat up.. ;) packet it well… :) vape in medium until dies… Empty… Cut it up with a credit card… So it all mixes well.. And some lumps will come losses… And re pack it .. And use it again this time in high… ;), If you like this tip… Let me know… Have some other… ;). Also, in terms of packed ovens, how often do you recommend cleaning? Also, would u get more from it by pulling nice & slow or hard & fast? Any input or suggestions you might have would be appreciated. How can anyone want one of these if your ideas don’t work? Also–I HAVE had times in this last week when I see no exhale BUT–DEFINITELY feel the effects, so again–should you ALWAYS be able to SEE the exhaled vape? Does the PAX 2 screener work on the PAX 1 or do I have to buy it for PAX 1? I used the pax for the first time last night and it did that. I guess I’ll know more tomorrow. Awesome article! You can quit when you are still getting draws but not much effects. Do you think it will smell much if I say, sat it on a table or put it in my pocket after half vaping it and leaving it to sit? Finally the material looks all “burnt”, brown colour, after the system heats once. It’s safe to assume that almost all of the units being sold on auction sites and those being sold for less than MSRP are not genuine. Yes pack it tight, like actually push down on your herb and compact it, and make sure you grind very fine. I needed a resource for my new purchase .. and bingo .. you are right on my brother. I think I’m pretty convinced I have to grab a finishing grinder but want to be sure this will help my issue. Hey, VapeCritic! I made my purchase (PAX2) based upon your recommendation. Probably just needs an initial burn off but if the funny smell continues I would contact support. My only concern is wouldn’t using the added screen technically void the warranty? Yes I have the original Pax screen at the bottom of the oven, and then I sandwich the material between that and another screen on top (the bent one). I spoke to the Pax people about why they didn’t include some kind of carrying case as to avoid scratching it up by carrying it in my pocket with keys and change. No the product can do its job. I just read the return policy from the company you recommend to purchase from. When I smoke my herbs it really smells up my apartment. Enjoy your info and bought my pax based on your review. Then it occurred to me, why not give the old gal one more chance. Sweet! How do I know which USB AC Adapters are compatible w/ my PAX2? 8-10 good draws from a half packing (as shown in this post). The recommended way to use this vape for maximum vapor production is with a fully packed oven. I have no question right now, only a comment about your presentations. Bud, Thanks. Every part of the PAX 2 is just rounded off beautifully. Thats what I wanted something else. All to no avail. I can’t afford another one. Green light, waited 7 seconds to make sure it was gonna vape something… and I got a lung buster. Do your readers a HUGE favor and inform them that Ploom will not warranty ANY PRODUCT purchased online. Are there any pouches or bags or some sort of case, so the vaporizer doesn’t get fish guts on it? An original by ploom will have a circular metal bolt in the back of the device. Moisture was an issue. I used a coffee grinder and allowed it to dry for 15 minutes and thought I packed it well. PAX 2 is designed specifically for use with loose-leaf plant material. Also, I see a ‘pin port’ on the charger – is that for a special AC plug adapter? In this vape the herb will come out dark brown when it’s completely done. I don’t think mine is getting hot enough, even on the hottest setting. Look closely, the difference is hard to spot, as the hex sides are tiny indeed. What is my best choice for recharging ? my tiny plastic grinder is a no go. Yea it’s really a bummer but there are a lot of fakes, be careful where you buy! I’m using the lowest setting and good quality material. PAX 2 Pusher is a tool designed for the users of PAX 2. Hey check out the 3rd video down on this page:, I’ve had this unit, Pax, for about a year. Nothing wrong with echoing a suggestion. Hey Andy that sounds like it may be defective :( or possibly a counterfeit, but you sound sure that it’s not. no joking, i can get like 10 or 15 minutes of full clouds on every draw, i pack it so much that when i take the material off the vape it looks like a perfect brown rectangle. I know that galvanized SS is dangerous, when heated, chromium a of some kind or another?, and lower cheaper grades have their inherent possiblities towards dangerous particles. The screen is there mainly to block your material from traveling up the vapor path to the mouthpiece area. I also use WAY less herb. The PAX 2 is small. I ordered a new screen and pusher exactly from where you recommended and a new grinder. Just bought it on a whim, it’s simply brilliant. setting and have made sure my bud is ground pretty well but I can’t see to get any kind of decent vapor. Here is our list of the top Pax 2 accessories that we think you should check out 1. thanks for all the great tips. I hope this helps somebody because thats how i got it, from one of you guys or gals but i could’nt remember your handle sorry. I experimented with what looks to be spent herb and i am still getting wise. Hey that sounds like what happened to my first one after 15 months, and it did end up being defective and getting replaced. Pax should use this screen as original equipment. I got a counterfeit, had issues with it, and actually talked (by email) with someone at Pax who told me someways to spot a counterfeit. it worked pretty well the first night but I wasn’t getting any visible vape the next day and drawing from it felt clogged. Featuring an intuitive user interface, technology that preserves your herb and battery life, an all-in-one form factor and dense, pure vapor, the PAX 2 is a joy to use. Is this just stuff that needs to burn off ( like heating it to “ready the oven”) or did I not get a new pax? My only issue is the thorough cleaning I have to go through weekly. Seems like it would make more sense than buying a pusher or screen. Lately the heat adjusting lighted button inside does not work. puff until the vapor feels as though it reduces then hold it up right so the material falls to the hotter oven surface. Is that normal or is the material done? Hey I haven’t tried that I just mentally figured it wouldn’t work as well, maybe I’ll give it a shot soon just to see what happens. The button does not seem to pop back up any longer. I technically bought this unit twice…and I loved it both times. I would have gone with the mighty but as a newbie I wasn’t comfortable with the price tag. It would definitely give them greater reviews. Mike. Return the oven screen to the oven by laying one end furthest from the vapor pathway and gently laying in the screen the rest of the way. The materials used inside the PAX 2 are stai… Also it looks like fallic. Hey Chris, I’m not sure what that person was talking about but as far as I know there is absolutely nothing wrong with using very finely ground up material in this vape. Using the method I’m about to describe you can get away with only packing the oven half full and still get great performance and vapor production. Now I had gotten clouds, thin clouds, but this was much thicker. When I turn it on now it blinks blue 5 times and shuts off. Any ideas about what I’m doing wrong? PAX 2 & PAX 3 Adjustable Sandwich pusher and 3D Bottom Screen US FAST DELIVERY-Buy 1 get 1 Free Brand: Unknown. Keep it real. I usually only like to take a couple hits at a time before setting it down for a couple hours. I have never used cotton or hemp filters for vaping before. My question begins the same as elit923, add to that, even after following your directions I only get about 5 pulls with vapor. Just started vaping and immediately purchased the pax upon recommendation. Thank you for what you do, Bud, please keep it up. I will say that having used both the Pax and MFLB with a 2 piece and 4 piece Space Case grinder that a coffee grinder is far superior, IMO, in that it produces a finer grind and thus more robust vapes in both units. Its my experience that regardless of how tight I pack it, it’s loose when it’s been vaped, especially with dry herb. Or the room must be filled only [concentrate] as small as possible? I finally received all 3 yesterday and wow what a difference it made. The Chinese have gotten so good at forging everything that it would be very helpful to post close-ups and identifying tips for both fakes and known authentic Pax units. How do you keep it packed? I never get that clogged feeling using them. I bought a pax yesterday at a smoke shop. More than that for daily usage? Is this a new policy? I only need a draw or two at a time. Hey mang. Cause I have multiple pax screens. i really hope there is some way to fix this without having to exchange it for a new one. [some text redacted]. I just cleaned it and did exactly what you said in terms of how to pack it right, and now it’s hitting like a beast! Thanks Bud for this forum. Great site and posts…Pax newbie here and just discovered on strike three that I was pulling waaay to hard. I wish you did show a smoke session in the video like you have with others just so I could get a better idea of how long you have to draw and the quality of the vapor but I trust your words. The Pax 2 is now working perfectly and now excited that i own it. That sounds about right for battery life I leave mine on the charger between sessions because of battery life. Questions please. I had slipped her in a drawer probably 8 months ago, never looked back b/c it wasn’t playing nice. Hey Phil it sounds very much like you’re experiencing the “temp light” issue. Do you need to, at any point, move the herb around during the vaping session? Stumbled upon a video of you vaping w/ the pax, your review good, user review good. I’ve been using it 3 times, and i liked it, but now i have a problem: when i turn on my pax, it doesn’t heat up. Hey Bud, thanks for all the help you offer and the video reviews. That trick about adding a screen to a half packed chamber this thing works like a charm now. I’ve done my best to clean it but to no avail. Also, after a full charge and 2 pack sessions should I re-charge or wait until the battery is more used? Keep up the good work! Thoughts on vaping [pollen] in the pax. That was more than 2 questions I think ha. Thank you. You can toss material after the red sessions. Just pack some herb then tamp it down, pack a bit more and tamp it down. Is this amount of residue buildup normal? I found that by increasing this bend a bit to give the oven hole more air space helped my vapor output considerably -clean and lube the pax often. So when you now have no fresh material get your spent stuff and kick you pax up to red #3 and pack the oven full, repeat turning material. Bud how does [pollen] do if i mix a little ? sometimes if your battery is about to die you wont get enough heat to really get a good pull on it or even get it heating up right. Great information! I like the launch box. Have good material finely ground. I [feel more effects], for longer and feel more satisfied than before. Bud, thank you much. Hey man I just responded to your comment on my other post but basically you’ll know the herb is spent when you stop getting vapor from it. I tried the screen trick and am now getting twice as dense a vapor with less herb. Noshit. The pax got VERY hot in my hand each time I took a drag and I was barely getting visible vapor. Have you seen my video about elbow packing with that vape? Update: 1 From newvape picked up Pax2 Non-vented Lid 2 with pusher combination. Hey Bud, Great tips and reviews, keep them coming. Thank You. This last heating makes a thicker smoke. First, just remove the lid by pressing down on one side of it and let it pop out. I’m leaning towards the Launch box or Pax. One other thing you could try is making the outlet hole on the mouthpiece a little bigger with a small drill or screwdriver, but I would recommend buying a second mouthpiece and trying it on that in case it doesn’t work out. can you please show me a pic or video of a cashed out oven or burnt up [herb] that is done and fried? Thanks Bud. Hey Bud. -get your material to near powder, but not quite powder A 4-piece grinder with a mix of normal/upside down grinding will do the trick. I keep it clean, so I knew it wasn’t that. I was pushing down to hard. Maybe you can help me. You can use the lid to firmly tamp down the contents of the oven. It would be so great if you could answer me on this question. Vape as little as .1g in the Pax 3 with the Pax Pusher (use code 420vapezone to save 10%) The Pax Pusher is one of my favorite Pax 3 accessories. Do you think it would restrict the airflow since it would be almost powder? Definitely let me know if they get back to you and help you out. I imagine it would also be prudent to wash the screen with soap and water, plus boil it for 10-20 minutes, to remove any handling contaminants and machining oils. Why aren’t they in the instructions? Now, when using the same grind and packing method, I’m only getting 3-5 decent pulls before the vapor seems to disappear.